Knowing that something difficult is coming, does not make it easier. As much as fans were prepared for Mats Zuccarello's eventual departure – now permanently, when he weighs in to Dallas – did not make it easier when the news dropped. And when already emotional fans saw the weak returns that first announced, it got even worse. Jeff Gorton acquired a conditional 2nd round pick in 2019 and a conditional 3rd round election in 2020. If Dallas Stars wins two rounds in the playoffs (and Zuccarello plays 50% or more of the games) 2019 2 will be 2019 1st. . If Zuccarello loves Dallas and stays around this summer, 2020 will be the 3rd round choice a sought after 2020 1 st. The deal itself is remarkably underwhelming in its core. Zuccarello is in pace for a 65-year-old (if he has played in all 82 games), is a permanent 50-point player, and is easily one of the most skilled Rangers we've seen in place for the team in the latest memory. Add to the fact that Zuccarello is a favorite for the fans, can be the human performance of Steven McDonald's Extra Effort Award and it was the funniest thing that a usually not fun organization has ever produced, it's hard to see him go. The return has brought out the knives to Gorton, who must be said to lie up against the wall by waiting until two weeks ago to actually sit and negotiate with Zuccarello. I am not…
Knowing that something difficult is coming, does not make it easier.
As much as fans were prepared for Mats Zuccarello’s eventual departure – now permanently, when he weighs in to Dallas – did not make it easier when the news dropped. And when already emotional fans saw the weak returns that first announced, it got even worse.
Jeff Gorton acquired a conditional 2nd round pick in 2019 and a conditional 3rd round election in 2020. If Dallas Stars wins two rounds in the playoffs (and Zuccarello plays 50% or more of the games) 2019 2 will be 2019 1st. . If Zuccarello loves Dallas and stays around this summer, 2020 will be the 3rd round choice a sought after 2020 1
The deal itself is remarkably underwhelming in its core. Zuccarello is in pace for a 65-year-old (if he has played in all 82 games), is a permanent 50-point player, and is easily one of the most skilled Rangers we’ve seen in place for the team in the latest memory. Add to the fact that Zuccarello is a favorite for the fans, can be the human performance of Steven McDonald’s Extra Effort Award and it was the funniest thing that a usually not fun organization has ever produced, it’s hard to see him go.
The return has brought out the knives to Gorton, who must be said to lie up against the wall by waiting until two weeks ago to actually sit and negotiate with Zuccarello. I am not saying that things would have turned out differently if the two sides had spoken the whole year, but if Zuccarello’s question was run down to three years (instead of the five Larry Brooks reporting that his camp demanded) we might have seen Gorton lean against keeping Norwegian.
Anyway, let’s break down the yield:
I’ve seen a lot “Rangers got nothing ” back to Zuccarello. It’s a failure created by Zuccarello’s love, and it’s simply not true. Everyone was mentally prepared for Zuccarello to take back a 2nd round pick and a B-level prospect. It was hoped the total package would be more, hoping that a team would enter a bidding war when they lost on other options and upped the stakes – but at the boiled reality was a 2nd and a B level outlook the reasonable expectation for rent here. The Rangers got their 2nd and could not get another lookout so they took a 3rd round of choice. With conditions that I come to in an instant.
Back to the “nothing” aspect: A 2nd round pick is not something. A third round choice is not nothing. The chances of capturing a legitimate NHLer drop that each name derives from the board, but there are many players who disturb their trade (or dominate it) in the NHL in the respective rounds. Saying “Oh the Rangers are sucking out to draft” is not a fair part of this analysis. You want to blame the team’s lack of advanced draft results over the last decade or longer? Good, but it has nothing to do with this part of the return. Rangers will have three second rounds this year because of this writing (or two or one, depending on Tampa who won the Cup or Dallas winning two rounds, or both) to help strengthen a farming system that still needs elite talent. It is not rare to find the players in the second round of the draft, and Rangers have more shots on it today than they did yesterday.
There is a long list of comparable out there but this is really not a crazy return. If there was someone other than Zuccarello it would probably cause mumbling and a little bit more.
Jiri Hudler returned a 2nd + 4th round picking in 2016. The item amounts to 3 years before being traded:
54 in 75
76 in 78
35 in 53  Zuccarello:
59 in 80
53 in 80
37 in 46
Is a 2nd + 3rd (with the conditions for becoming 1st) really a bad return for Zuccarello ? #NYR
– Stat Boy (@StatBoy_Steven) February 24, 2019
Gorton cannot merely materialize trading partners. Apart from the Daren Dregers report one day ago that the Rangers could get a first or a high-end forecast, pretty much everyone has endured the second and a B-level prospect line. About it. Remember one month ago when the conversation was Zuccarello might not even take it back?
The people screaming on Twitter and Facebook, which Gorton “got fleeced” seem to forget that he can’t magically create trading partners. At this time of year (read again: at this season), trading returns are largely dictated by the market. That’s why I gave Gorton so much credit for Michael Grabner’s trade last year – he got his deal before the market started stupid. I will come to Gorton’s fault on this trade further down the article, but the idea that Gorton looked at other deals and said “no I take this” is absurd. He took the best deal in front of him, and since several multi-party conversations have been going on for several weeks, it was a trade that was carried out after a comprehensive review of the market. The idea that Gorton could “negotiate” a better return from another team is also incorrect. Either the action is there or not.
In a traditional environment (say at the draft or a random mid-season trade), it is easier to paint with black and white beats over a deal because there are not so drastic timeline factors that play. Once you have entered the “selling” part of the season, you are the victim of the market itself (to an extent). If it was even another team that was willing to give Gorton a guaranteed 1st round pick it is hard to imagine that it was not where Zuccarello would have ended up.
The idea that Gorton “should have been waiting for more” is equally misleading. The longer these calls pull out the more leverage that it has from the buying side. Thanks to Rangers’ horrible timeline on “negotiating” with Zuccarello and Kevin Hayes, it was known that the team intended to move them by February 25 at any cost. If Gorton knocked off this offer and Dallas either made a bid for Mark Stone, or found another landlord, or decided not to do anything and just moved, one could bet the deal on Monday would have been worse than this one was. Is it possible that another team would have panic and give up more? Of course, but it’s even more risky than not taking the deal that was on the table right now. It is Gorton’s job to know the market and make a move, and he thought it was the best deal he would get.
Ryan Dzingle’s return (Anthony Duclair and two other round picks) lifted eyebrows, especially as it went down moments before Zuccarello was moved. Remember: Dzingle is four years younger than Zuccarello and is probably seen as someone who has another tool since he played in the cesspool that is Ottawa. It is likely that Columbus would not send elections and opportunities (if NYR wanted Duclair back) to a division rival. Again: It’s not black and white.
As a reminder:
2019 2nd will be 2019th 1st if Zuccarello plays in 50% or more of Stars & # 39; playoff games and they move on to the Western Conference Finals
2020 3rd becomes a 2020 1st if Zuccarello is re-signing in Dallas this summer
There is a huge game on this trade for Gorton, and that’s probably why he joined this deal over others offered (Calgary, Winnipeg and Nashville were all in on Zuccarello too, although we didn’t know who made the fixed offers). If any of these conditions are met, the deal becomes a home run. If both conditions are met? It’s a big slam. If not, yes, Gorton will at least have another shot at getting Zuccarello back in July.
The West is a crazy conference right now, with Dallas sitting in the first Wild Card slot with 65 points. They are six points behind the red hot Blues for the last place in the Central top three. Zuccarello will add a lot of talent to that group in Dallas, especially since he will finally be surrounded by elite talent. While I wouldn’t expect Dallas to win two playoff series with a gun in my head, it’s not exactly impossible. If the playoffs started right now they would start on the road in Winnipeg, then you have to go through Nashville or St. Louis to be fulfilled. Crazier things have happened, and I’m curious to see what Zuccarello’s skill is with that set-up.
As for him, stands out: This is a double chance for Gorton. If Zuccarello is re-signing in Dallas – as likely or as unlikely as you think it is – the Rangers hat will get 2020 1st and this is completely finished. If Zuccarello doesn’t stay in Dallas then he’ll hit the free trade market and Gorton can take a last crack on him to get him back.
This deal may end up being just a 2nd and a 3rd with Zuccarello wearing another shirt next year. It can stop being a 1 and 3, or 1 and 2, or 1 and 3 with Zuccarello returning to New York. It would not be crazy for Dallas to fall in love with Zuccarello in the same way that New York did and do everything to keep him. It is a lot about this trade and while it represents a huge gig, there is also upwards.
It really is the time of the whole thing.
The most logical complaints about the deal I saw were “Rangers should just have kept him if this was the best offer on the table,” which I don’t think is a crazy thought process. The problem is that I’m not sure it was possible after how badly Gorton and business destroyed their timeline.
At the beginning of the year, Zuccarello was so confident that he would be traded that it affected his daily life and his play on the ice. The Rangers didn’t negotiate with him or Hayes until two weeks ago – so they couldn’t even pretend that a trade wasn’t the only result. There were many reports from the national speakers who would both be treated throughout the year – and that was a natural assumption – but the local reporting that no page spoke a few weeks back told. Gorton should not let things hang for so long, and should have been moving throughout the season. Zuccarello’s five-year question is not absurd, especially since he comes from a law-friendly four-year extension where he gently left money on the table, knowing that this is probably his last major contract in his career. Gorton balking at the five-year question is good, but if these talks were held in November, it would have been time to see if there was a middle ground. Gorton could always have made it clear that he did this in addition to reviewing trade opportunities, and perhaps Zuccarello and his camp had met in the middle to hold on and force Gorton’s hand.
At least it has not created the bad blood seems to exist now. Based on some reading between the lines from the media in the room, it seems as if Zuccarello is gone for good. Two months ago, I hadn’t thought it was the case – send him and take him back in July, always working on paper – but it doesn’t seem as likely now. Perhaps it is for the cameras (Gorton and Zuccarello discuss such things would be collaboration) but for now it is the truth. I don’t think Gorton could have turned and rewrote him for a penny less than his original question when we arrived at this, and that was something Gorton was not willing to do.
Not much more to say here. I think Tom will have a juicy story that we all need next week. Meanwhile, here’s this thread to make you feel better: