Warning: This article contains spoilers from the third season of Marvel's Daredevil. Read at your own risk! The Devil of…
Warning: This article contains spoilers from the third season of Marvel’s Daredevil. Read at your own risk!
The Devil of Hell’s Kitchen broke a tyrant again! Marvel’s Daredevil began with Matt Murdock (Charlie Cox) slowly but surely returning to the living country after the Midland Circle building collapsed on him in 19459004 Defenders final. Matt was from Foggy (Elden Henson) and Karen (Deborah Ann Woll) and abandoned his civil life. Matt focused on taking down Wilson Fish (Vincent D & Onofrio), who masterminded a whole conspiracy that involved being released from prison. substantially violating the control of the FBI; and destroy Matt’s professional and vigilant life. All of this meant that two FBI agents in particular were injured: the good-bye Ray Nadeem (Ray Ali) who was extorted to work for Fish and murdered towards the end of the season when he decided to testify to him; and Ben Poindexter (Wilson Bethel), a mortal agent who committed several murders while dressed as Daredevil (RIP Father Lantom) and is intended to become the iconic Daredevil villain Bullseye. (Read EW’s complete round of season 3.)
The annual war culminated in a bloody and recurrent battle between Matt, ready to kill, Fish and Dex, who beat Kingpin after realizing how much he had manipulated. Fish breaks Dex back, leaving him paralyzed, and Matt comes close to killing a bloody Kingpin; But at the last moment, he decides to offer Fish a deal: Matt promised not to turn out invasive evidence against Fis new wife Vanessa (Ayelet Zurer) if Fish agreed to stay away from Foggy and Karen. Villing to do something to protect Vanessa, the fish is wiped to prison because Ray played a condemnating testimony against him before his untimely death.
As Matt was reunited with Foggy and Karen to form a new company (Name TBD), doctors were busy trying to repair Dex’s spinal cord injury. In the final shot of the season, a bullseye appears in Dex’s eyes, indicating his book-destiny.
In the end of the game, EW had several questions about what the end means for Matt and business, the future of the show and more. Fortunately, showrunner Erik Oleson was willing to answer most. Read our spoiler-filled chat below:
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: When you logged in on showrun season 3, what would you focus on?
ERIK OLESON: One of the goals I had for Season 3 was that I wanted the audience to experience, not watching the show. What I mean is that I wanted to use the deepest views, where you are in the minds of the characters and experience the events and decisions that the characters make as if you are the character. You do not look at it from a distant canopy that is beautifully graphic but is just about the spectacle. I wish it was the approach for season 3, to really get into the heads of characters.
Instead of introducing Bullseye as a real villain, you decided to tell about its history of origin. Why would you start there with the character?
The way we saw Agent Ben Poindexter was that he was a boundary personality. Dex is someone who may have been able to function in society as a positive character, even a hero. He overcome his mental illness using medication, psychiatric help and a rigid structure in his life with a job at the FBI where he helped people. But the tragedy in him is that he enters Wilson Fish’s path, which is a narcissistic personality, a tyrant, a wild dictator who turns him into the evil version of himself on his own path to power.
One of the things that fascinated me was that otherwise good people who might have been positive members of society who fall under someone who stirs their fear and on their dark side and causes them to wear tin flakes through Charlottesville. There was very much in our minds when we watched Fish and how he plays for people’s fear-freezing for the other-and using them to share people against each other and against themselves.
When designing his backstory, did you look at something in the series or what background you gave him?
In the series, Bullseye is mostly a fullblown psychopathic murderer. In the version of the story that I wanted to tell, every single character in our casting has a psychological depth and it is a reality for them and I invite the audience in their heads to empathize with them and start with a psycho-killer is not so interesting. I was much more interested in the fact that since the series were not specific about Bullsey’s background, I would have the freedom to create one. It helped me tell the story for season 3.
When you add all the characters together, it is governed by the governing idea that governed the design of season 3 – and we had this on the author’s room wall – [which] was a quote as we all came up to and it went as follows: “You can only be free when you confront your fear that your fears are what strikes you.” In Dex’s case, he is always afraid of being his true self. He has stayed in that cage because he knows that he is a boundary personality with psychopathic tendencies. We talked to the psychiatrists; We just wanted to draw the character as a real person, eventually becoming Bullseye because of all the factors you saw during the season – Fish deliberately destabilizes those parts of his life that made him able to cope with his mental illness.
The last shot is of a Bullseye materializing in Dex Eye. If there is a fourth season, are you planning to make the Bullseye season is big bad?
I can not answer that question, I’m afraid. Let’s just say that we have now seen Bullsey’s origins, and there are many, many stories yet to tell with this throw of characters. Whether season 4 goes in that direction or another, Bullseye will live and breathe in this world, because we have now seen how he has been created.
Have you heard of a potential season 4?
I can say I’m very hopeful to make a season 4. There has not been any form of official download yet, but if there is, I’m very hopeful that I will be part of it.
You avoided putting Matt back in the costume for the whole season. What was the reason behind it apart from the fact that it was destroyed and Dex excelled him?
The deeper symbolic reason is that Matt’s perspective on God and Daredevil as a symbol of scaring offenders from his crime, all of this has changed. Matt does not know the same way about the costume and the symbol of Daredevil as he did before season 2 and Defender. He is in another place emotionally, and he is also unable to be Daredevil, as everyone knows. As you saw at the beginning of the season, he is quite crushed and unsure that he will ever be able to become Daredevil again.
Again, one of the leading principles for me was that I really wanted an emotionally honest season. There are times when this can only do things because it’s cool, but it takes you out of a story because it is introduced by authors from the outside, as opposed to characteristic and real, and something that can actually happen if this world was real and the characters did what they want to do and take the actions that were a natural development of their wishes and needs. I am very strict about how we break stories, and that was one of my reasons not to put him in the red costume at the beginning.
In your mind, where is Matt’s senses when the season ends? How does he feel about his relationship with Daredevil?
At the beginning of the season he has this new perspective of God. It is changed from the kind, benevolent God of the New Testament, and he sees him as more of a cruel and punishing God in the Old Testament. He feels that his efforts on behalf of God have not been rewarded. But at the end of the season, I think Matt has worked through these problems in many ways. He has a very complicated view of God and his role in protecting the hell kitchen and his relationship there. Matt, especially after Father Lantom’s death and the successful pace of Fish without Matt having to judge his eternal soul, has injected a new hope that he has found a new purpose and drive. I think he is in a much better place. He has been proven spiritually, physically and emotionally. I have to stop there because I do not want to talk about where I want to take it next.
Coming back to the author’s rummur quote to overcome fear, did you inspire us to give us an expanded Karen Page flashback in Section 10?
The whole idea of Season 3 was that our fear enslaves that we all, the characters of the show and the viewers in reality, build certain ways based on fear in our real lives. In the Karen Page case she is afraid that she is not a good person, that she is invaluable to love because she has committed this unforgiving act to cause her own brother’s death. What Karen has to confront, what Karen will realize is kind of what Matt says to her at the end of the season in the finals, which is in the big planning of things, we try to make every effort we can and in the balance of life Karen did better than bad. He does not give her an easy answer to it. It’s like a core phase of her character, you know that this horrible scar tissue is high and full in a car crash after her brother just tried to save her from this violent boyfriend. It informed me of a number of things.
When I started the season I wanted to understand the signs deeper, and I did not understand why Karen in season 1 flirted with Matt but never went anywhere and flirted with Foggy for a couple of episodes and never went anywhere, and then chemistry with Frank Castle but never really went anywhere. I would like retcon, or explain at least in my own head and then on the screen why. The fear that drives her is that she is not worthy of love. So, it not only informed the flashback episode but also why she behaved how she behaved in previous seasons.
Wilson Fish is also driven by fear this season. He is afraid he is not worth Vanessa’s love. Ray Nadeem is afraid he does not live up to his responsibility to take care of his family. His fear drives him to make some disastrous bad decisions during the season. Matt is driven by a fear of abandonment, and it certainly prevented him from forming a meaningful relationship with Karen. Only when he realizes that his fear of abandoning him and forcing him to push his friends away, he can be his best self, to overcome his fear, let his friends help him, and that was also part of  I would very much tell a story that talked to the times we live in, where there are narcissistic tyrants who play for all our fears, turning to each other and turning to ourselves and that’s what Fish represents. But I also wanted the show to inject hope and give a recipe for how to defeat someone like that. To me, the recipe is the power of a free press, which apparently Karen represents this season; The law of law, which Foggy represents a lot; and then the power of collective action, love, friendship and faith, represented by Matt who goes with his friends to overcome a tyrant.
Aside from the existence of Luke Cage s Annabella Sciorra and Danny Johnson, there were no major transitions and the season felt disconnected from the rest of the Marvel-Netflix universe. Do you avoid crossovers because you do not want to, as you just said, put things from the outside?
I did not want to make transitions that distracted us from core history this season and the story we wanted to tell. My personal style, just the writing I want to do and the writing I like doing, is stored and focused on legitimate stories that have explosive action moments, which are hopefully surprising and very surprised but driven by the architecture we have designed for the seasons. For me, when you have drop-bys from characters from other shows or Marvel Universe, it would have to feel organic for the story you’re telling or else it will only be distracting. It’s my personal taste. Some people will miss it and disagree with me, and there is no right or wrong. For me, every Marvel Netflix show shows its own tone and I really wanted to keep track of the ball this season and I would completely crush the characters on Daredevil and not be distracted by setting spin-offs or other elements.
The season ends with Fish in prison and picks up this deal with Matt. Do you feel you’re done with Fish, or is it more you want to do with him?
All I will say is that there is a reason I ended the season so I finished it. There are more stories to tell all these characters, but in the end I would not always deny Matt’s soul by making him killer, even though he gets as close to what he ever has. So, I think, let’s see if I’m going to do more of these seasons.
The complete third season of Marvel’s Daredevil is available on Netflix.