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Atlantis Found (Again)! And Exasperated Scientists (Again) Raise their eyebrows

Almost 2,400 years ago, Philosopher Platon Atlantis described as a powerful state that had 10,000 wagons, advanced technology, a large…

Almost 2,400 years ago, Philosopher Platon Atlantis described as a powerful state that had 10,000 wagons, advanced technology, a large number of elephants and bulls and a series of complex channels. And now, in a new documentary, a British-based group claims to have discovered the ruins of this once flourishing society on what is now the Atlantic coast of Spain.

But an archaeologist said that the ruins probably belong to another ancient culture and several scientists interviewed by Live Science could hardly contain their exasperation when they heard the news of another Atlantis discovery. (People have made dozens of such claims over the years, locate the legendary community in Antarctica, Bolivia, Turkey, Germany, Malta, the Caribbean and elsewhere.)

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1; if they are correct, be great,” says Ken Feder, Professor of Anthropology at Central Connecticut State University. “But here’s my problem: As an archaeologist, I know that I must always be in my bullshit detector. And these guys, they’ve done almost everything they can do to turn off my bullshit detector. “[Images: Lost Medieval City Discovered Near Angkor Wat]

It is debatable if Atlantis even existed. Platon described ancient society about 360 BC, and wrote that a politician named Critias actually heard about society through a game of historical phone dating back to ancient Egypt. Atlantis served as the perfect example of a society that had been corrupted by its material wealth, advanced technology and military force. destroyed the gods Atlantis about 9000 years ago in a disastrous event, wrote Platon.

For centuries, scientists saw Plato’s writings on Atlantis as allegory. But that perspective was changed in 1882 when Minnesota’s United States Republic Ignatius Donnelly (1831-1901) , an amateur researcher, published the book “Atlantis: Antediluvian World” (Harper & Brothers), claiming that Atlantis was a real place. 19659002] Sed After all, people have searched for the sunken remains of the city. In the latest example, Merlin Burrows employees found two years ago what might be Atlantis in Spain, said Bruce Blackburn, CEO of Merlin Burrows, Live Science. The company, based in North Yorkshire, England, uses historical records and satellite data to find archaeological sites.

Blackburn’s team used data taken from commercial satellites, such as Landsat 5 and Landsat 8 (which also supplies data to Google Earth), to find the site located in Spain’s national park Doñana. “Obviously, it’s a very bold thing to say,” said Blackburn, who has a background in business and finance. “Everyone will have [one of] two opinions. One is that” This is fine. Let’s take a look at it “and one will be” It’s a junk release. “” [The 25 Strangest Sites on Google Earth]

What they found [19659005] the company’s researchers chose to look after the place in Spain after reading Plato’s two dialogues on Atlantis. “/>

A bird’s eye view of Doñana National Park.

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The text in these documents includes Plato’s descriptions that “in front of the mouth you call, as you say,” Heracles pillar “lay an island greater than Libya and Asia together.” Such descriptions led Merlin Burrows to the Spanish coast, near the Gibraltar Strait, said Blackburn. There the team found several archaeological clues: large circles that were possibly the bases of ancient towers, the ruins of what the team claimed might be the temple of Poseidon and a green-blue patina coating some of the ruins – all the details that Platon included in his dialogues, said blackburn . [10 Biggest Historical Mysteries That Will Probably Never Be Solved]

The team also found the remains of a long sea wall as well as signs of a tsunami, which can be evidence of the catastrophic incident that drowned society, Blackburn said.

“The Atlantis cities, which are very detailed in the writing of Plato, are really there for everyone to see,” said Blackburn.

After that, Merlin Burrow’s samples of material – which are likely to be man-made, Blackburn – took from the circular foundations and possible temple ruins. The company gave these samples to a material analysis laboratory in Italy, which dated them between 10 000 and 12 000 years ago, Blackburn said. But at the time of the press, Blackburn did not say what methods the laboratory used to make the concrete.

Merlin Burrows and Ingenio Films have made a 2-hour documentary called Atlantica about the discovery, and Blackburn said he expects him to make more documentaries.

“What we really want to do is want to franchise find,” said Blackburn. “We want to make a lot of money out of it. And with the money we want to support the archaeological community.”

Merlin Burrows is not the first group to claim that Atlantis is in southern Spain. In “Atlantis Rising”, National Geographic announced that the network had found evidence that Atlantis was located in Doñana National Park, as well as the 2004 study in the magazine Antiquity. And Elena Maria Whishaw, Head of the Anglo-Spanish-American School of Archeology, published the 1929 book “Atlantis in Andalusia” (Rider & Company), which predicted that the region was a colony of Atlantis.

It is not strange southern Spain is a place of interest that people lived there long ago. In a recent study in the December issue of the Journal of Archaeological Science: Reports, researchers found that people lived in what is now Doñana National Park about 5000 years ago, according to an analysis of pollen and microscopic remains in the area’s sediment. [19659002] The study showed that the park was above sea levels during certain periods, including the Neolithic and Copper Age. Researchers also found that Doñana National Park sits on Holocene sediments that began to accumulate approximately 7000 years ago. “Under these sediments are sedimentary landfills and fountains of fossilized sands dating from thousands of years earlier,” said Juan José Villarías-Robles, studying researcher and vice president of the Institute of Language Literature and Anthropology at the Center for Human and Social Sciences in Madrid.

If the dating of the 10,000 to 12,000-year-old concrete samples reported by Merlin Burrows is correct, these samples could be from pre-holocene formations, said Villarias-Robles. But, at least for this place, it does not match that date with an Atlantis-type society, he said. “But assuming that the material is artificial (which is a big assumption), the date takes us from a cultural-historical perspective down to the palestinian and post-pagan times,” said Villarias-Robles to Live Science in an email. “These are the times for hunters and collectors, rather than those as creators and rulers of a comprehensive farming, livestock farming, shipping policy [like Atlantis]. “[How Plausible Are These 20 Imaginary Worlds?]

Meanwhile, Feder (anthropologist at Central Connecticut State University) asked why Merlin Burrows had not submitted his investigations into a peer-reviewed journal that would allow other scientists to heal the research. “It immediately hits my bullshit detector when someone, instead of doing so, makes the announcement through a press release, a press conference, a web page or documentary, “said Feder.

In his book” Encyclopedia of Dubious Archeology: From Atlantis to Walam Olu m “(Greenwood, 2010), Feder 53 53 found specific descriptions of Atlantis in Platon’s dialogues, including the city crossing adjacent landings, as well as a central island surrounded by a stone wall on each side. Descriptions also said that Poseidon’s temple in Atlantis had a ceiling of ivory, silver walls and pinnacles of gold. It’s common for amateur researchers to check some of these boxes but rare for somebody to go through the checklist, “said Feder. [How Plausible Are These 20 Imaginary Worlds?]

The area is “a very interesting place”, but the fact “quite obviously” is not news, says Mark Adams, author of “Meet Me In Atlantis: My Quest to Find 2000 Year Old Sunken City” ( Dutton, 2015). Archaeologists have for years shown that southern Spain was a maritime trading point in ancient times, told Adam’s Live Science.

“Do it [this area] Atlantis? I can not say no, but I do not see any new evidence that hurts me” against yes, Adam said after watching the new “Atlantica” trailer. Adams said, as Feder, that some aspects of the site meet the Atlantis checklist, including the fact that the region experienced cataclysmic earthquakes and floods, but other aspects were missing.

Adams said he would take an Atlantis proposal more seriously if it had important details from Platon’s dialogues, including the city’s unique layout of concentric circles (like bulls) of ocean and dry land. (These concentric circles are different from the polka dot-like circles found by Merlin Burrows in the landscape.) Or perhaps archaeologists find an inscription about Atlantis in an Egyptian temple where, according to Platon’s letter, the original description was found, says Adams.

“What many people are doing is that they will be familiar with Platon’s history – and there’s lots of information there, why this is so fun to play with – it’s really like a treasure map – and they’re sharing which matches their hypothesis and they quietly leave those parts that do not match their hypothesis, says Adams. [Rumor or Reality: The Creatures of Cryptozoology]

In reality, Platon is likely to twist parts of various stories and myths he had heard, to sculpt this source material in the probably fictional story of Atlantis society, the advanced yet corrupt society that the gods destroyed. “[Plato] did not write it down as a surveyor’s report that people could follow 2,400 years later, says Adam. “He used this to make a philosophical argument.”

Put another way, “People often say they’ve found Atlantis,” a classic archaeologist in England, who refused to be named, told Live Science. “But if they were to read the text, they would realize that it was a legend, not a place.”

Editor’s Note : This article has been updated to show that Platon’s dialogues describing Atlantis were written once around 360 BC, not 330 BC as previously said.

Originally published on Live Science .

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